If Born From Pain's latest achieves anything, let's hope it wisens up
the world to one of Europe's best and most underrated hardcore
outfits. Veterans of four blistering albums previously, this Dutch
quintet are as hard touring, hard working and, most importantly, hard
rockin' as they come, with _War_ (the fifth chapter in their
discography) virtually buckling under the weight of some of their
best material yet. I spoke to the always affable Karl Fieldhouse, Born
From Pain's guitarist, to get the skinny on the new record, guest
appearances, the press and a whole lot more besides.
CoC: The new album, _War_, has been out for a few weeks now, and the
response thus far has been very positive. What are your thoughts on
how it's turned out and how the fans and the press have received it?
Karl Fieldhouse: The response has been outstanding. I've seen a lot of
reviews online and in magazines, and I haven't seen anything too
negative being said anywhere -- which is amazing really, because it
tends to be that you'll always have some good stuff and some bad
stuff. But I haven't seen anything bad so far, which is very
encouraging. The most important thing is that our fans have received
the album really well, because there are a few changes in there from
previous Born From Pain albums. I think it has a lot of Born From Pain
elements, but there are a few subtle new aspects that we've added and
everyone has been very receptive to that. So I'm 100% happy with what
people have been saying about it, but then I was always happy with the
album while we were recording it as well.
CoC: So for people who are familiar with earlier material, but haven't
heard the new album yet, what would you regard as some of the major
differences? Because certainly for me the record tends far more
heavily toward being metal than it does just being a pure hardcore
album.
KF: The main difference is the melody that we've introduced. As a band
we've always had tiny hints of that on songs, but with this album -–
it's not like we've sold out as a band or turned our back on our
influences, but there's definitely more of that this time round.
There are a lot of strong hooks and I think that's one of the first
things that people will notice very prominently. There are a few
things from _In Love With the End_ -- the slower, almost New Orleans
type stuff -– that we brought forward more as well. But I think that
the melody is the strong factor that people will really hear. Saying
that, it's still a typical Born From Pain album in my eyes. It's not
like we've gone in a totally different direction and suddenly you have
a big huge chorus in every song or something like that.
CoC: I mentioned earlier the metal aspect that I feel is more
prominent -– what's your take on that?
KF: You know, that's something that a lot of people have pointed out,
but I don't hear. I hear it in places, but I still consider ourselves
a hardcore band in the fact that we're not a metalcore band who sound
extremely metal but came from the hardcore scene. I still think that
we have hardcore music within our sound. The fast riffs are still
there in a hardcore sense rather than a thrash sense. It's an
objective thing at the end of the day. We definitely have a lot of
metal in us though -– there's no escaping that.
CoC: It's ironic, because I had a conversation with someone from
Cataract -– a band who I believe has a lot of parallels to Born From
Pain -- and he mentioned that there have been times that they have
felt almost out of place playing to a metal audience, despite the
massive influence that side of the spectrum clearly has on their
music.
KF: When we play, I don't feel out of place playing to anyone. I think
that people who like just hard music in general or something that's
not part of the norm will be able to find something in what we do.
Whether it be a Crowbar fan who finds something, or whether it be a
Napalm Death fan who can find something -– I think we bridge that gap
quite well. Not that we're rewriting the book or anything, because
we're clearly not. <laughs> Everybody is welcome at one of our shows.
CoC: Since you mention Napalm Death, you had Barney [Greenway] turning
in a guest appearance on the album alongside a number of others. Why
the decision to bring all these guests on board? From your point of
view, whose performance turned out best and was the best fit for Born
From Pain?
KF: That's a pretty hard question. I actually think that the reason
why we did it was because we wanted to include some of our friends on
the record. We started doing that last time round when we had Jacob
from Hatesphere singing. So we really wanted to do that again this
time round. We like to include people who we respect and who are
friends, and it's really enjoyable. I think all of these guys -– Lou
from Sick of It All, Barney from Napalm Death, and Jan-Chris from
Gorefest -– all had something unique to offer. They all have their own
very unique style, and I think that every one of them fit with the
song that they're on. As to which is my favourite, I couldn't honestly
say. Every time I listen to the album, I'll hear a song and think it's
amazing, but it changes almost every time.
CoC: You mentioned just a minute ago about anyone being welcome at a
Born From Pain show, and it is interesting to note how the lines
between what fans prefer have become blurred over the past five years
in particular.
KF: Yeah, I think that's definitely a good thing, and it's something
I've noticed in the past as well, where you have a kid at a Madball
show wearing a Nile shirt or a Bolt Thrower shirt and then you'd have
a couple of people at a Bolt Thrower show wearing a Sick of It All
shirt. I think it's down to the fact that people can find different
things in different styles. Maybe you have a kid from a hardcore
background who's attracted to the vocals and the riffing in a death
metal band, or who is drawn to the energy. I think it's very important
to keep your mind open to things. I mean, when I was a sixteen year-old
kid, I wouldn't listen to anything except New York hardcore. If it
didn't sound like Sick of It All or Youth of Today, I wouldn't listen
to it. So I was very narrow-minded for a year or two, and eventually I
figured out that I was allowed to like other stuff as well. It's just
a shame that a lot of people go through that and end up missing out on
certain bands altogether. I think you should keep an open mind on
things regardless of whether it's heavy or not.
CoC: Having been around the block a few times now, how is it for you
working in the studio with the band in comparison to when you first
joined?
KF: Well, I've been on three of the albums now, and I did albums with
the other bands I used to be in. My first experience was really
exciting, because it wasn't something I had ever done before and I had
someone telling me what to do. Now it's a different kind of story. I
mean, Tue Madsen, who did _War_, is an amazing person to work with; he
just lets bands find their own sound. So when we went in to do this
album, we had a very clear idea of what we wanted to achieve from the
album sonically and what the dynamics should be, and we really got
everything we wanted from the record. That's just due to experience
and knowing what you need to do to get things the way you want them to
be. There's none of the nerves when we go into the studio, because we
can just go in and we know what we want, we know who we're working
with and we have the utmost confidence in all of it. It's like a
holiday going into the studio most of the time, because you're in one
place for more than a day. <laughs>
CoC: Well, you guys are absolutely crazy-busy as far as touring is
concerned.
KF: Oh yes.
CoC: Since we're on the topic then –- you head out into Europe in
March, if I'm not mistaken?
KF: That's right. We're headed out at the end of February on a co-headliner
through Europe that will take us through March. We'll have
First Blood with us on that one -– they're an awesome band and they're
just awesome live. We've also known them for a long time, so it's
going to be great to go on the road with those guys. The shows are
going to be pretty much 100% carnage each night.
CoC: Given the quality of the new Cataract record and now the new Born
From Pain, it's a sad thing to see quarters of the media not giving it
as much attention as it should. Keeping this in mind and really
looking across the last decade or so, do you feel that the media has
"done in" the European hardcore seen?
KF: Definitely. Not so much the press in Europe, but press in the UK
definitely doesn't acknowledge bands in Europe as much as they do
bands in the States. If Cataract or Heaven Shall Burn or whoever were
to come from the US, the press would be all over them, but they're not
and so I think that they don't get the amount of attention that they'd
otherwise get. Likewise, you have a band like Terror -– whose music I
love and who are good friends of ours; if they came from the UK or
from Europe rather than the States, they wouldn't get the amount of
attention they get either. I think that European hardcore bands
definitely pull at the short end of the stick. Metal bands get the
attention that they deserve, but hardcore bands are looked upon as a
weaker, younger brother of the US scene. Personally when I check out
new bands, I don't take into consideration where they're from. It's
just about whether or not I like the music. I think that the media
issue will change as more and more people go online for their
information though, because I think that certain magazines are
definitely becoming a little redundant. Any news that's on a magazine
you already know, because it's usually been online since the band
actually said it, and I think that websites and online magazines also
have more integrity than the press, because the press are only trying
to sell their magazine. They'll include a band who's popular over
anything else, just because they know that ten thousand fifteen year-olds
will pick up the magazine because of it. Whereas with online
magazines and with the online press, there's a lot more integrity –-
people are doing it because they love it and not because they're
trying to sell magazines. The reaction that they have toward shows or
CDs tends to be more from the heart.
CoC: Aside from the tour in Europe, what other plans does Born From
Pain have for 2007?
KF: Well, we were hoping to go to the States, but the tour we were
going to go on, which would have been with Kataklysm, Sworn Enemy and
All Shall Perish, got pushed back a bit and ended up clashing with our
European tour. But we're hoping to get to the States at least twice
next year and we'll probably play some of the festivals in Europe,
although I don't know which ones yet. We'll definitely be headed back
round Europe at some point later in the year as well. Hopefully get to
some countries we have never been to before -– we want to try and make
it to South Africa in 2007 and maybe China, and if everything goes well
try and make it to Brazil and Japan as well.
CoC: So, final question to wrap up the interview: what's your pick for
best hardcore release of 2006?
KF: <laughs> Oh, that's a tough question. I've got to say it will
probably be the new Hatebreed album. They're band that I've loved for
a number of years, and the last record was one that kind of
disappointed me, so when this new album came round when I first heard
it, I wasn't that impressed. But the more I listened to it, the more I
thought it was amazing. Definitely one I'd recommend to anyone reading
this. Also, there's an album that's coming out in 2007 by a band
called The Setup. They're awesome. I don't know how to describe them,
but they're an interesting band to say the least.