The members of Boston-based Grief are not exactly happy campers. While the doomy quartet that specializes in slow,  heavy  sludge-core have gotten slightly more upbeat since their first two  full-lengths, _Dismal_ (Common Cause) and _Come to Grief_  (Century  Media),  Grief still tend to look for the  cloud  behind  the  silver  lining,  most recently on _Miserably Ever After_ (Pessimiser/Theologian).      While the core of the band started out as  Disrupt,  Grief  soon became the favored outlet for vocalist Jeff,  drummer  Rick,  bassist Randy, and guitarist Terry. With their misanthropic lyrics and  credo "If it's too slow, you're too happy," Grief have become a favorite of other  extreme  bands  such  as  Soilent  Green,  16,  Dystopia,  and Corrupted - all of whom have done split recordings with the band.      I recently got a chance  to  speak  to  their  guitarist,  Terry Savastano about Grief's new record, plans for the future and  cynical outlook on life.
CoC: Will we ever see a happy album from Grief?
Terry Savastano: Probably not happy, but we're getting away from  the                  depression  thing  and  more  into  the  anger   and                  loathing thing. But happy? Never.
CoC: When and how did Grief come about?
TS: Three of the members were in Disrupt, and we played in that  band     for a number of years but wanted to do  something  else.  We  did     both bands for a while then Disrupt broke up and we're just doing     Grief now. It's been that way ever since about '90  or  '91.  I'd     say five years and going strong.
CoC: How is Grief different from Disrupt?
TS: It's a different form of music; Disrupt was just charging full of     hardcore and politics and Grief is really slow, monotonous dirge.     I try not to use the word metal, but I guess we are a metal band.
CoC: Face it, you're a metal band.
TS: Yeah, you'd have to say that.
CoC: Sorry about that, but I have to quote Anal Cunt every chance I       get.
TS: It's alright.
CoC: Who are some of your influences?
TS: The usual: Black Sabbath, Trouble, St. Vitus, and the Melvins.
CoC: How did the Grief sound develop?
TS: Just fucking around;  just  screwing  around  with  certain  shit     trying to turn up everything as loud as it will go, tuning things     down and smoking a lot of grass. Plus being bored and bummed out.
CoC: Do you think there's a certain sound that comes out of smoking       pot?
TS: Definitely, that slow churning stuff. We just  get  really  baked     and it comes out. For rehearsal we smoke as much pot as  possible     and just get down and make music.
CoC: How do you feel about people associating Grief as a drug band?
TS: As long as they just associate us with grass and drinking  booze,     we pretty much frown on everything else.
CoC: How would you describe the Grief sound to someone who has  never      heard the band?
TS: Like explosions... really slow, fuckin' funereal dirge music with     a singer who sounds like he got his arms cut off. <laughs>
CoC: How has your sound progressed over the years?
TS: It's gotten a lot more melodic, a tiny bit faster, more involving     and a little more technical - but still true to form.
CoC: Tell me about some of the lyrics on the  new  record.  Was  "Low      Life" based on personal experience?
TS: Jeff [vocalist/lyricist] wrote the words to that  song  and  they     were definitely based on personal  experiences  -  just  numerous     individuals that will find out sooner or later.
CoC:  I  also  noticed  anti-straight  edge   lyrics   in   "Straight      Edge-Closed Mind", what prompted that?
TS: We've just taken so much shit from  people.  People  will  pretty     much do whatever the hell they want, I don't care -  but  I  hate     people that preach. These militant straight-edge  kids  can  just     fuckin' stick it up their ass. When they stop preaching to me and     telling me what to do, then I'm going to write a song  about  it.     If you're straight, that's cool; live your own  life,  make  your     own rules. We've actually met people like 'Oh, you're  a  fuckin'     loser, what the fuck are you doing smoking that shit?' Fuck off!
CoC: The song "Why Should You Care"  puts  down  bands  that  try  to      promote ideas through their music. Do you really believe that?
TS: That's another song that Jeff wrote, you'd have to ask him  about     that one! <laughs>. I'm not PC or a veggie and I'd love  to  take     drugs until the day I die. It doesn't really  matter,  it's  just     music. If people are going to take it really seriously, then they     definitely haven't got it. Everything is so negative  because  it     just comes right out in the music, a little bit of it  is  tongue     in cheek.
CoC: You've used the slogan "I Hate the Human Race" for a while,  now      the song finally appears on the new record. What took so long?
TS: We had that on the back of our shirt for over a year, it was just     something to put on the back and offend  people.  When  we  wrote     music to a song in the studio that didn't have any words we  just     used that and now I know people [for which] that's their favorite     song. It cracks me up.
CoC: You also covered "Angry Man" by St. Vitus. Are you big fans?
TS: Absolutely, we love St. Vitus. I've been  into  them  since  high     school and turned the other guys  onto  it.  We  have  all  their     records, especially the stuff with Wino.
CoC: With such long, dirge-inspired songs, was there ever a fear that      people just wouldn't get it?
TS: Yeah, that's a constant fear and  an  everyday  occurrence.  Most     people don't get it, we have to travel  four  hours  to  play  in     front of people that like us; no one likes us in Boston at all.
CoC: What caused you guys to become so misanthropic?
TS: I've been that way my whole life, I'm sure the other guys in  the     band... well, Randy's half Jewish, so he's kind  of...  <laughs>.     It's the environment and just life in general.
CoC: I'm a New Yorker, that's my excuse, but  was  it  hard  to  find      three other people that felt the same  way  you  did  about  the      world?
TS: In the beginning it was kind of hard, I had Grief in my mind  for     a long, long time... years, and then finally I met these guys  in     Disrupt and they had similar interests and [we] gave it  a  shot.     It took off from there, but it took a while.
CoC: Are you planning on touring in support of the new record?
TS: Come springtime, we're going to go down South and do a  bunch  of     weekends. We want to go to California again, we went there in '93     and it was good, 80% of our audience is there. We'd like  to  hit     the Midwest again, but we've got to work around our jobs.
CoC: Is playing cathartic for you?
TS: It's a release, everything comes out. Everything that's pissed me     off during the day, I get out at night through my  music.  If  it     wasn't for my music, more than  likely  I'd  be  a  serious  dope     addict, in prison, or just a total fuckin' loser.
CoC: How do people react to the band in a live situation? There's  no      clear or defined mosh parts.
TS: No, not at all. Most people just  stand  there  with  their  jaws     open, a lot of people just frown and walk out,  and  some  people     actually kind of laugh. Other people, the people that like  it  -     they just stand in awe, mesmerized.
CoC: Any weird fans come out to the shows?
TS: This one guy carved a big upside-down  cross  in  his  chest  and     dripped blood all over  the  place,  we've  gotten  some  fuckin'     beauties. We've seen some seriously freaky people  at  our  gigs,     but it's nothing really - no one pulls out a gun or anything like     that. Not yet anyway.
CoC: Your last album, _Come to Grief_ was issued  on  Century  Media.      What happened to your deal with them?
TS: They dropped us, they let us go. It's actually  worked  out  good     because I didn't want to work with them any more, it  was  really     bad. I'm a musician, I just want to  play  my  guitar  and  sing.     Dealing with labels and people that have a control on what I  do,     I don't dig that at all. With Pessimiser, it's just give  them  a     call and [Chris Elder] does whatever we want or we do whatever he     wants. He's a friend, it works out much better.
CoC: I noticed you had some changes in the line-up, what happened?
TS: Our old drummer, Rick, left. Randy, the bass player,  moved  over     to drums and our friend [and Grief's  artist],  Eric  is  playing     bass for us now. Randy's originally  a  drummer,  he  drummed  in     Disrupt. When we started Grief, he was actually  our  singer  for     one of the first rehearsals and his voice couldn't take it so  he     went out and bought a bass and he's been playing that ever since.     Then Rick left and Randy  moved  back  over  to  drums  and  it's     working good.
CoC: If you guys are so miserable, how come you're all smiling on the      back of the record?
TS: Life's basically been going pretty good for all of  us.  When  we     started the  band,  especially  me,  I  was  a  miserable  little     bastard. I lived at  home,  always  bummed  out,  getting  drunk,     getting into accidents with my  truck.  I  moved  out,  and  just     realized it ain't that bad, you just got to stick it out and  try     to think positive. All my negative aspects in life, I  just  save     'em all up and when I get to rehearsal, or get to a gig,  then  I     let them out  through  the  music.  It  works  great,  it's  such     therapy. I just try to save it up instead of being a little  baby     and whining about it.
CoC: How has that worked out?
TS: Works fuckin' great, my life's  definitely  improved  and  that's     probably why we're smiling on the back [of the record].  It's  an     outlet and I hope a lot of people are looking at our music as  an     outlet too, instead of just 'Oh these guys are  wicked  sick'  or     just run of the mill. It means a lot  to  us,  and  hopefully  to     certain individuals it will mean a lot to them, too.
CoC: What's the biggest misconception about Grief?
TS: That's a good question... that  we're  bland,  that  we  have  no     substance. I think we're one of those bands that tend to grow  on     people.
CoC: Like mould?
TS: Yeah, possibly or skin cancer. We're  not  internal,  we're  like     something you brush off, but we'll always come back.
Contact: GRIEF, c/o Pessimiser/Theologian          PO Box 1070, Hermosa Beach, CA, 90254, USA